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Q: What is netiquette? |
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Q: What are the standard rules of UseNet? |
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A: The standard rules of UseNet are that there are no rules or better yet the rules change dependent on the people who post there. Despite that fact there is a sort of code or etiquette of how one should post to a Newsgroup. Certain “rules” are more powerful or take precedence over others, so following or breaking certain ones might be more important dependent upon the newsgroup.
1. The society of UseNet creates these rules based on community behaviors.
2. Follow the proper netiquette defined by the newsgroup’s participants usually found in that newsgroups FAQ.
3. Post related topics to the appropriate newsgroup using the newsgroups title, as the topic controller. Some newsgroups are text only while others are binaries only.
4. Don’t abuse or misuse the UseNet system, or violate the societies behaviors. Don’t upload malicious programs or more content than the system can handle and don’t use the system to break international civil and criminal laws.
Related Topics:
What is UseNet?
Why should I maintain the proper posting format or conduct for the group?
How much should I post, and what can I post?
Where can I post Binaries?
What is Conserving Bandwidth? |
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Q: Should I trust everyone or should I trust you? |
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A: Trust no one Fox Mulder. Now does this means you should trust me? To be honest, Yes don’t trust me either. Unless I’m tricking you into not trusting me which is what I want so you should and so on. Lets not entertain this round about thought. Suffice to say, that you shouldn’t believe everything I say or have written as fact and truth. I could be wrong or grossly misinformed on several things. So to save yourself from my errors you should also look else where as to solidifying your knowledge. But you also must keep in mind, is you source educated in the area that they are talking about? Asking the US Congress on how a computer works and access the Internet would be the wrong source. Asking a well-educated network engineer would be a more intelligent choice. |
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Q: Why should I maintain the proper posting format or conduct for the group? |
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A: A simple understanding is how societies work. UseNet is a society of (lack of a better term) Internet savvy or power users. Not everyone knows about UseNet, the mere fact that your reading this FAQ about it gives you a leg up on those who regularly use America On-Line (AOLers) and those who think the Internet is just e-mail, web-pages, and Kazaa. This concept alone places you in a social group that uses UseNet to conduct your social grouping function in. So in this social group (society) you are to treat, talk and behave in a certain accepted standard. In other words, when you are with your co-workers you don’t treat them like relatives, friends, or loved ones (significant other). You treat and talk to them as co-workers.
Now UseNet does offer some unique aspects, and certain steps should be taken so that an individual can intake the information they are seeking, or wish to accept. As there is too much information to consume in one day of normal UseNet activity. So some people set up ever changing guidelines to help those understand what is the social acceptance of conduct that everyone should follow. |
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Q: How much should I post, and what can I post? |
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A: Since general Internet activity is on the rise, the allotted bandwidth (the amount of data the can flow through a channel or line) is limited. Meaning resources are overtaxed and becoming obsolete faster that it can be made. So time to get data is slower and you could miss the stuff that you would have liked to view or download. So posting or uploading as little as possible will free up space.
Posting to a newsgroup about Metallica’s next concert in a forum that says it’s dedicated to car.ford.sales is an obvious bad choice. Most people will say that’s [OT] Off Topic and you just wont get the response that you where aiming for. However posting to the newsgroup rec.metallica.band or rec.music.concert will get lots of responces.
As this newsgroup abrf (alt.books.raymond-feist) is about the author Raymond E Feist books. Your topics should center on to his books or about him. You can mention other authors but it better be Feist related like his co-author a book with them or working with them. Another thing is Raymond will participant in the general discussions, which is really cool because it’s almost like talking to him in person. He answer questions about his books, especial if you where confused on something and loves to talk about vintage wines.
Related Topics:
What is Retention?
Why can’t I talk about PC/OS or Religion in this group?
Why is everyone on the Mailing-list and abrf act like jerks?
I got this great joke/chain message. Can I post it here as well? |
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Q: Can I sending repeat messages or cross-posting? |
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A: Don’t send repeat messages or cross-posting the same message to other groups. This activity slows down the system and can bother some people. Plus taxing or bogging down the system will hurt you the user in the end.
If you think your message hasn’t been sent, please wait a good hour or two as the Internet can be slow. Or in the case of UseNet, it might take time for you to see your message. |
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Q: Do I have to be brief in my posts? |
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A: Try to be brief, often hard to do especially when your point is a little far for people to grasp. So keep you explanation brief but state your point. Keep in mind the longer your article the less likely people will be willing to read it or have time to read it. |
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Q: What should I quote, and why should it be short? |
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A: You should quote only what you directly responding to. A good example is answering someone’s question and you quote the question before you type in your answer. Keeping your quotes short is very helpful in lowering the amount for the reader.
Also keep in mind responding to someone’s ‘none question’ is bordering on flaming or a flame war against the author of the original message. So be careful of what you’re typing. If you’re correcting the person because your knowledge base says differently, you’re bordering on a personal opinion, which is dangerous territory.
Programs like Forte Agent make reading newsgroups or mass e-mail (Mailing List) an ease by organizing the responded messages under the original message if you choose to have it do so. I highly recommend Agent, or its shareware equivalent Free Agent. But other programs or systems are not that easy to use.
Related Topics:
What’s quoting a quote?
I don’t want to offend the original author, what do I do to make their message smaller but being polite about it?
Should I post on the top or bottom of a quoted response?
What is Conserving Bandwidth? |
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Q: What’s quoting a quote? |
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A: NEVER quote a quote. Doing this behavior makes your messages twice to nine times longer. Especial if you post on the bottom, that means the reader will have to scroll all the way down to the bottom to read your two-line post. How annoying and you quickly ruined your creditability. So make sure you use the delete key on your keyboard and when in doubt, delete. Less is best, be brief. |
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Q: I don’t want to offend the original author, what do I do to make their message smaller but being polite about it? |
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A: Great question and concern. You never want to offend people because they maybe future employees/employers or relatives/loved ones.
The polite way to remove parts of the previous message without misleading the reader is to use the <snip> symbol. Either above the quote or below or in both places to indicate there was more.
Now if you want to do a word change, use these [] brackets to indicate word changes you made to the original. Like say if the author listed a bunch of REF character names and for the sack of space you want to swap out all their names to a general they. Then use “[They] where all in Krondor when James arrived, but where was Peter?” when quoting their original message. Be careful as some people might take offense to certain word changes and can call you the spelling/grammar police. |
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Q: Should I post on the top or bottom of a quoted response? |
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A: Post on the bottom, this allows the reader to read or review the quoted material to get the idea of what your response is going to be concerned with. But keep in mind the reader will have to scroll though the whole quote. If its to long then the reader will skip it, be annoyed with and less sympathetic for you, or completely ignore the message. Which doesn’t bold well for you, as your intent was to provide some information for other readers.
So presentation helps in writing to your audience. |
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Q: Should I use Sarcasm and satire? |
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A: Avoid using humor or sarcasm in your post. Often time’s people don’t see it or understand it even if you make it plainly obvious.
Some people have adopted the use of smiley faces :-) , lol or <g> to indicate they are being humorous. Others are too lazy or don’t think they are acquired, so the humor is lost. In this case a flame war may start. |
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Q: What is the preferred language of abrf and the Mailing-List? |
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Q: Where can I post Binaries? |
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A: “Rule” 3 of UseNet states that when posting. Post to related topics to the appropriate newsgroup using the newsgroups title as the topic controller is the correct form. Binaries or files are to be posted in newsgroups with ONLY binaries in the name. You can’t imagine how many people break this rule. Spammers posting messages to a none text group. Other people posting html signatures or posting pictures and such to a text only group.
This group abrf and the Mailing List are a text only forum. Binaries are not to be posted in either place under any circumstances. This group is set for text and the allotted space in most servers are smaller then a binary group, so messages will disappear faster. For the Mailing List, people are forced to download what you send them. So if e-mail start to have tons of pictures and such, it will kill the Mailing List users e-mail server.
Related Topics:
What is Media?
What are the standard rules of UseNet?
Can I post Binary attachments to abrf or the Mailing-List? |
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Q: I have a malicious program or intent, where can I post it? |
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A: “Rule” 4 of UseNet states that abuse or misuse the UseNet system, or violate the societies behaviors is prohibited. In the United States it’s a criminal crime to spread computer viruses intentionally. Also it’s illegal to lure children to kidnap them. So posting such things is illegal and is not encouraged but such activity does occur. Viruses and malicious intent should not be post in abrf or the Mailing List and anyone can report you to the proper authorities for charges.
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What are the standard rules of UseNet? |
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Q: My computer is infected by a virus, should I still post? |
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A: Good question. It’s often nice and helpful to warn others; especially if that is the newsgroup you got it from. But make sure your computer is clean of the virus to avoid posting or sending the virus to others. You don’t need to send out a mass warning to everyone on the Internet about the virus. Just stating that file destroyed your computer might prompt someone to avoid the same fate you had. But be clean and calm, though hard to do when hit by a virus. If you sound to angry and post all over, you’ll end up destroying your creditability. |
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Q: What is Conserving Bandwidth? |
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A: Limit the amount that you transmit over the Internet. Bandwidth is the amount of information that can travel through a channel or line. By doing large quotes, excessive posting, repeating responses, and contributing to spam ties up the system slowing down the whole thing.
o Reposting files that are still on the servers.
o Posting software that is available via the Web or FTP.
o Off-topic posts, including chat posted to a binaries-only group. Or vise versus.
o Posting more than the readers can reasonably download, which leads to requests for reposts.
o Posting questions when the answers are already right in front of you.
o Multiple, simultaneous posts of the same request.
o Excessive cross-posting.
o Flame wars. Take it to email or shut up. Your opinion doesn't need to be on thousands of servers worldwide.
o Trolling, which leads to flame wars.
o Ridiculously long signatures.
o HTML attachments, especially for signatures or simple text messages. Spare us, will ya?
Related Topics:
How much should I post, and what can I post?
Can I sending repeat messages or cross-posting?
Do I have to be brief in my posts?
What should I quote, and why should it be short?
Where can I post Binaries?
Can I post Binary attachments to abrf or the Mailing-List?
What is the rule of posting in html?
How long should my signature be, what should I decide to keep? |
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Q: Hey wait, what are the rules of posting to the Raymond E. Feist Mailing-list? |
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A: Oddly enough the same as the abrf despite that it’s done through SMTP. There are no rules, however there is a proper netiquette. Quoting, sarcasm, binaries, flames, spoiler space, and language still apply to the Mailing-list. Read this complete FAQ on what to do. |
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Q: What is abrf’s (alt.books.raymond-feist) posting format and conduct? |
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A: Outlined throughout this whole FAQ. This FAQ should help you understand not only the proper etiquette but understand as to why. |
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Q: People are yelling at me to add Spoiler Space, what does that mean? |
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A: You are giving away plots or character development to books that they haven’t read yet. Adding spoiler spaces or spoiler warnings can stop this ruining of the experience of discovery of the book.
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What does Spoiler warning mean? |
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Q: What does Spoiler warning mean? |
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A: A Spoiler warning or space is a divider that gives the reader a grace period of not seeing information regarding something in a story plot or character development. There is no such thing as a Spoiler warning for a place or someone’s name. But you should try to avoid stating who is the father of a character in the subject or header line.
Spoiler warnings in the Header or Subject are much more effective than actual spaces in the body of the message as the reader will skip your whole message. Regardless of which one you use depends on the circumstance of the use.
Another thing is if you feel that the spoiler only ruins a certain book then use a format of the book’s abbreviated name with Spoiler after it. Example of what it would look like for Magician is: Mag Spoiler.
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How do I make a Spoiler warning in the body of the message?
How do I make a Spoiler warning in the Header or Subject line? |
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Q: How do I make a Spoiler warning in the body of the message? |
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A: If you been typing along and realized that you just revealed a plot to a book but you want people to read your point but not your explanation. Then using a spoiler space before the area that may ruin the plot to the reader who hasn’t read the book. Type in SPOILER SPACE for Mag. Then place in a reasonable amount of spaces, 15 to 30 and then the rest of your message. An example is below:
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I don’t think Tomas has the ability to do that.
SPOILER SPACE for Mag
I think he can’t do that because he is said to have such and such ability.
This Spoiler Space saves the reader from accidentally reading the spoiler in your explanation of your point.
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Q: How do I make a Spoiler warning in the Header or Subject line? |
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A: To make a Spoiler warning all you need to do is included the word Spoiler at the end of the Header or Subject line or in the beginning in brackets. Examples are below:
<Spoiler>Question for REF
Honest Johns bar -Spoiler
Honest Johns bar –Spoiler for aDaS and Silver
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Q: Why can’t I use new forms of or short hand? |
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A: Try to reframe from breaking from regular English use as not everyone speaks or writes that language fluently. Short hand is better for if your taking notes for yourself. Not everyone is prelude to the inner workings of your mind and it’s just going to look like a lot of misspelling or a foreign language to them. Now with all the short hand in your post the reader won’t understand what your writing and your creditability has been shoot down a notch. |
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Q: What is alternating caps, and why shouldn’t I do it? |
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A: Alternating caps is capitalizing in the middle of a word or not capitalizing the beginning of the name, place, or sentence. tHis iS an eXamPle Of alTenAtIon cApitALizatiOn.
This has everything to do with presentation. The flow of the words is broken with the capitalization and at some points break the words up into new words. It also gives the reader a harder time to read this as they go up and down the words like a roller coaster, which in the end annoys the reader and makes them skip your message or ignore all other messages from you. |
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Q: Why should I not do a “me too” or “I second that idea”? |
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A: If someone answer a question that you wanted to answer or something similar has been answered, there is no need to post up a “me too” or seconding the motion or idea to confirm that’s what you would have said. This is consider as repeating a responses and ties up UseNet or the e-mail server. If someone posted up the answer then there is no need to give the same answer, unless it’s a timing issue. If that is the case then someone’s answer didn’t appropriate to you fast enough and is overlooked by most people but can annoy them.
Readers should know that the newsgroup is a 32-hour newsgroup and the Mailing List is a 4-hour List. Meaning responses times can be in or up to that time. So abrf is vastly slower than some that have people posting every fifteen minutes. With the more faster and popular groups, they request people’s answers to others question be e-mailed to the questioner to save a bunch of the same answer being posted by hundreds of people who couldn’t see each others answer until two hours later. Then the questioner needs to post up a summary of the answer. Neither abrf or the Mailing-List ask participants to take that measure of control.
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Why should I avoid posting my opinions or argue until the other person concedes? |
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Q: Why should I avoid posting my opinions or argue until the other person concedes? |
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A: Arguing until the other person gives up or stating personal opinions often lead to lengthy and tons of post about the same arguments just written with other words with either side not conceding to the other. Your opinions are yours and yours alone. You shouldn’t try to force others to your opinion, or seeing the world on how you see it. These arguments become less like arguments as time goes on and if others start to complain that you need to drop it or go to e-mail, you have gone to far.
Most personal opinions often lead to flame wars. And when in a Flame war its hard to be the one that is the quote on quote loser. Unfortunately you both are the losers as everyone is now filtering or ignoring both your messages and wishing you would just go away. Flamer wars do one thing; they destroy both participants credibility that they had worked so hard to build. So before you start flaming, calm down and are you writing a personal opinion or are you stating a point or fact.
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Why should I take this to e-mail, isn’t this an educational forum?
Why can’t I talk about PC/OS or Religion in this group?
What is flaming and being flamed? |
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Q: Why should I take this to e-mail, isn’t this an educational forum? |
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A: Often time’s people claim, “take it to e-mail”. Which is not a good solution, because some people offer up fake e-mail address or such to avoid spammers. Or the person complaining thinks that Flame Wars or Off Topic Discussion should be to taken to e-mail or another forum. This is not good as the person who you have a problem with is now evolved more in your life as they are now e-mailing you but others don’t see the issues. Personal threats can arise in such situations, and now it’s moved from being uncivilized to criminal actions. For both parties this doesn’t bold well.
Or the flame war loses it emotional aspect now that it moved from two different forums. Or the participants lose their audience and lose heart in arguing. With that being the case, taking it to e-mail often means, just shut up already in a polite way.
Now being educational or being on topic doesn’t give you the right to state personal opinions. Like everyone else at some point you have to concede from the discussion. So if you drop it first with the though of I let it, and the other is going yes they final saw it my way. In the end both participants view their truths are the correct one or they are the “winner” of the exchange.
With all that said, it’s actually best to avoid flaming and flame wars. |
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Q: Why can’t I talk about PC/OS or Religion in this group? |
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A: Discussion/arguments on which computer, religion, government, or car manufacture is better is a personal opinion. And should be avoided as they lead to flame wars. Plus this is off topic for abrf or the Mailing List and requires a [OT] in the header of subject of the post. Off topic discussions are not encouraged, as their are more appropriate forums for such topics. |
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Q: Why should I try avoid purposely-misspelling words, or be the grammar/spelling police? |
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A: Purposely misspelling words or using slang terms to words will confuse the reader especial if they are not aware of the latest fad. Calling people dog may be taken literal by foreign people and could be consider as offensive as they won’t know that your praising them on being their own person and sleeping in the dog house which where it comes from.
Now every once and while someone gets the idea that they should be the spelling or grammar police. It’s bad form to show others that you have more mastery over the English language than them. Don’t correct misspellings or grammar issues, which cast you in bad light as others might become offensive to your attempts. Remember you’re not the top dog or the best person out there. I guaranty that I can find someone who can do it better than you. If the person misspelled something its probably by mistake or not knowing how to spell every word out there, but they make up in that short coming by being way skilled at something your not.
Try to figure out what they intended to say by ignoring the problem, and politely responded with “I think your asking for” or “I believe your talking about”. This allows a lot more clammier and sensible reaction from everyone and your creditability has gone up compared to those who correct language use. Not everyone speaks your language fluently so be mindful.
Now if the misspelling of grammatical error confuses you to what they are talking about. Ask them to clarify is it this or that. Or you can ignore the post in favor of someone else tripping up or understanding. |
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Q: Why is everyone on the Mailing-list and abrf act like jerks? |
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A: A fault in human conditioning. We assume that everything must protein to us, thus we build or perceive the world around ourselves. Often people fall victim to the not seeing though others eyes or at least not understanding the others situation.
So please first calm down and please relax. I’ll be straight up with you, some humor or sarcasm is often hard to read. Especial if they use subtext along with it, which might give a new spin on the meaning to the sentence. Some people use their whole message as a statement within itself so you must take the whole message in consideration. Almost everything I say or do is done with a smile on my face, as I truly find everything amusing. I even go as far as using my quotes or Phrase in my signature as a rebuttal or please don’t take me seriously. I’m a perfectionist at heart, and if I take everything personally I would have lots of issue with everyone. “Truth depends greatly upon ones own point of view.”
My best suggestion is to Lurk on the forums. Get a feel of each persons voice and a little insight in to who they are. However another flaw of these forums is the fact that the people that have been posting there tend to forget that newbies are new and haven’t seen that question answered a month or a three years ago. To solve such a problem the FAQs attempt to answer these frequent questions. But trying to cover everything and prepare you can be a daunting task. With ISP limiting the size of such web spaces and other limitation. Sites have to change host and possible address, often losing stuff or getting lost for mass consumption. Not to mention the responsibility that comes with tackling such a task to being the self elected caretaker of such things. ”Patient’s is a virtue that is often lost on such things.”
Now if you find something offensive, you need to calm down. Please don’t start a flame war as someone is going to have to be the better person. Is it going to be you by letting it go, or are you going to let the other person know that you where offended? If you do notify the other person, please be polite, don’t call them names or be rude. Just say, “Hey I was offended by how you stated that.” Saying very little and being brief does count for something : )
Related Topics:
What is a ghost-name?
Should I use Sarcasm and satire? |
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Q: Can I post Binary attachments to abrf or the Mailing-List? |
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A: No you can’t. Posting unrelated messages to text only groups breaks UseNet “rule” number 3. As abrf is alt.books.raymond-feist and contains no binaries in the title, you should not post attached multimedia to this group. Another reasoning is the allotted space for text only groups is smaller than binaries. So if a bunch of people posted up pictures, all the old messages for two weeks ago will be lost and if posting files get excessive. Then the pictures themselves will come up as incomplete.
The Mailing-List is done through SMTP and attaching files to e-mails is a bad idea. Such files tend to be viruses or can cripple the Mailing-List participant’s chance of retrieving all the e-mail.
If you really are desperate for people to see your picture or media ask them to e-mail you personally or post it the Web please.
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Q: What is the rule of posting in html? |
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A: You shouldn’t post in Hyper Text Mark-Up Language. Three reasons are that such files are considered as binaries and not just plain text. Another reason is that often times html can get quite excessive and elaborate as it offers more text flavor and freedom. So what can be simply done is now way over board and taking up valuable server space. The finally last reason is some readers use certain software that doesn’t understand html. So it’s none sensible rubbish to programs like Forte’s Agent. Is this a downfall of those types of programs or is that an advantage. I say it’s an advantage as most spammers post in html design to be launch in Outlook. So their ad is un-viewable and wont launch your default web browser to their annoying site with Agent. |
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Q: What are the rules regarding surveys and questionnaires? |
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A: Most newsgroups say no surveys. However abrf and the Mailing-List do allow such things to an extent. Both forums ask that you have in survey the statement stating that answers are to be sent through e-mail directly to you for summarizing the results. When you post the results, they should be based on numbers. Like 7 out of 23 said this, or 30% of the people who filled out the questionnaire said this.
A better way to conduct surveys and questionnaires is to create a webpage using JavaScript’s input dialogue’s. If you need help setting something up you can post up asking “I want to a set up a webpage questionnaire using javascript”. Then once you have it set up just post a link to the site and ask people to participate in the survey. |
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Q: I got this great joke/chain message. Can I post it here as well? |
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A: Jokes, humor, satire, and sarcasm should be avoided, as people will take offense. But regardless of that people still do it. The best question is this joke on topic about Raymond E Feist books? If the joke is a blonde joke, then I would have to say don’t post it and if you do. Your creditability is going to go down and a flame war will ensue.
Chain-mail is often times a hoax or a scam. Pyramid scams are now illegal and justifiable so as they take money away for the little guy who joined last and gives money to the people high up on the chain. And its not bad luck not to pass the letter on, this is a myth. But if you do believe that, then it’s bad luck to annoy people on abrf and the Mailing-List : ) |
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Q: How long should my signature be, what should I decide to keep? |
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A: Signatures should be brief and short has possible. Your name and e-mail to contact you properly because you use a fake (ghost) e-mail address in the reply area is a good signature. Others like to use Phrases and Famous quotes, while others like to have their webpage address on the bottom.
It’s however bad to use all of them, especially if your quote is like two or more lengthy sentence long. Think in this way, if you post up a two-sentence response and your signatures is more than the response, you need to trim something or a lot of it.
Lets us use mine as an example. The first one is a little long but it gives you the idea that I state my name, my little rebuttal or don’t take me to seriously, and my website dedicated to Raymond E Feist for informational reasons. I could do without the rebuttal thing but feel that I need it to discredit myself.
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Lore
“The truth depends greatly upon ones own point of view."
http://students.uat.edu/jefjonai/feist/index.html
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Lore beefspit@hotmail.com.edu
To e-mail me drop the “.edu” thingy
"Affirmative may be justified.
Take from one give to another.
The goal is to be unified.
Take my hand be my brother.
The payment silenced the masses.
Sanctified by oppression.
Unity took a back seat.
Sliding further in regression.
One, the only way is One.” –Creed from One; My Own Prison
http://students.uat.edu/jefjonai/feist/index.html
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This second one is way too long. Even though Yahoo attached its crap to your e-mail its part of your signature. The quote will need to be a whole lot shorter. Three lines is pushing it, nine is overboard. A different quote is needed or make up your own phrase. Plus with the now extra webpage address this make the whole signature seventeen lines long as you have to count everything. Now your signature can be twice or four times bigger than your response, which now looks like there is more value in your signature then your message. This is called bad presentation and sometimes signatures can get annoyingly long so spares use all, please. |
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Q: Why are people claiming I’m SHOUTING? |
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A: Though people who read can’t here if you are actually yelling they are reading your words. If your angry you will subconsciously choose words that express your anger even if you mean too or not. So single words in one word sentence to drive a point could be viewed as yelling or shouting to someone.
But this is not the case here. On the Internet there is common notion that when you place all the letters in a sentence in all capitals, you’re shouting. THIS IS CONSIDERED AS SHOUTING. See the Point. : ) So if your going to shout to prove your point then you better be right about shouting, eh? |
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Q: What is flaming and being flamed? |
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A: Flame is usually referred to any message or article that contains strong criticism, usually irrational or high emotional words. Avoid "flames", and if you do get "flamed", relax, calm down and decide if it's really worth "counter-flaming". Usually it isn't worth flaming and you will be perceived as a "flamer" by the large silent majority of readers.
Before sending your response to a flame check for, are you sending what you want to send? Are you calm and polite? Do you get to your point with a brief explanation? Should you post up your article so that others can read your opinion?
Often time’s people start flaming over something so trivial that doesn’t warrant such action. So keeping away from subjects or certain actions will stop such emotional outburst. Current news, politics, and even religion are what I call personal opinions and shouldn’t be posted. I know we believe that we are right and we have all the answers, but “personal opinions” are solely ours not everyone else’s as they think their opinions are the correct ones.
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What is trolling? |
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Q: What is trolling? |
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A: Trolling is acting or being a Troll. A Troll is someone that lives under a bridge that purposely fishes and attacks unsuspecting gullibly goats. A troll baits or antagonizes gullibly people to responded to their remarks, hence why it’s called Fishing. The Trolls remarks often generate a Flame war to purposely tie up the system in use. Most Trolls crave flame because in their pathetic life no one talks to them. So they feel that this is a service for talking and being a complete jackass. Trolls create arguments and keep antagonizing the person or gullibly goat into more flame by never conceding until they feel that they win the argument.
Trolls are easily spotted when an Off Topic discussion wont die and people call for it to be dropped or taken to e-mail but they refuse to do it. Or they bait people by stating something that has weak merit of thought like “The last book Feist wrote sucked. His characters where too hollow and weak. The story was done before and there was not enough action.” Or they call you names or something a long the lines of being uncivilized.
Your best solution is to ignore the Troll or just concede from an argument or personal opinion early.
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Why is someone saying, “Don’t feed the troll”?
What is Spam? |
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Q: Why is someone saying, “Don’t feed the troll”? |
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A: Feeding a Troll is arguing or giving the Troll material to antagonizes you about. Ignoring the Troll is the only way to make them go away. If people don’t respond to their message the Troll isn’t going to stick around and move to the next gullible group of goats. Or they will come up with new bait that you need to ignore. |
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A: Please No SPAM, though I doubt spammers will read this. There's nothing more I can say, besides wishing I had a Thermo-Nuclear devise and some barb wire to tie all the spammers to it : )
SPAM is referred to mass advertisements or commercial like messages. SPAM can also including Off Topic discussion about pushing a product that has no association to the Topic.
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How do I report spam and to whom? |
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Q: How do I report spam and to whom? |
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A: Don’t send e-mails to the spammers as they will send SPAM to the e-mail address you just sent them. And its always nice to have a SPAM account like on Hotmail to give out everywhere so if spammers extract your e-mail address, they get a dummy and not a personal one.
The only way is to report spammers is to their ISP. Usual the address is abuse@ the spammers ISP address. Like for instance you want to report Joe Shmoe at HighSpeed.com. The address would be abuse@highspeed.com or newsabuse@highspeed.com, this gets usual sent or redirected to the server’s administrator. Now hopefully the ball is rolling, unless the server administrator knows that Joe Shmoe is on a business account and pays for that permission. Then it’s almost out your hands. The only other choice is to go back to your own ISP complaining of the SPAM for this ISP. Then your ISP can only deny all incoming data from that ISP.
Now before I let you go on that, there is the none-proper way and the proper way of reporting SPAM. If you do it exactly in the following steps you will be sure the best outcome will come to your advantage. Remember to be polite, civilized, and get the point by being brief as possible.
Step 1: Is this really SPAM? Who really sent it? What does the Header area say? How many other newsgroups did this target (usually under the newsgroup association field)? Is this a new post?
On UseNet an article that is posted must have certain fields filled in. So when you forward it to the abuse address make sure Header fields are turned on and displayed in on top of the message. The Fields should be like from, message id, reply to, newsgroup association, and etc. Please read your programs documentation on replying and forwarding.
The Header field will tell who really sent it. Is this article or serious of articles generating from one person or is it a fake name from one ISP. Normal advertising is not illegal, but if they excessive cross-post to Ten or more groups that’s a major problem.
And if your repeating this step you can’t take the original you need the spammer to post up new spam or new Spam to generate from that ISP because the user could be on a DNS and getting new IP address from his ISP.
Step 2: Send a message to the abuse account address stating that this Mass advertisement was posted in several newsgroups violating proper UseNet conduct of excessive cross-posting. Provide the whole message including its content and header fields to the ISP administrator so they have proof, and can look to see who was under that IP address at the time. Laws require or demand that ISP keep log files of all their servers request and activity.
Step 3: If no action is taken as the Spammer is still spamming from that ISP, keep doing steps 1 and 2 over, and get others (with in reason) to help you out. There is more power in a herd and eventually the administrator is going to cave-in to Ten people complaining compared to one individual. But don’t get a band wagon together, enlisting people to do this is a bad idea and defeats this clean process. If the offending ISP still does no action then move on to the next steps.
Step 4: Send all copies of your action with the proof of the abuse and any communiqué from the offending ISP to your ISP. Remind them that you’re their customer and you tried contacting the ISP to resolve this UseNet abuse, but the abuse still is persistent. You can request your ISP to send the offended ISP a letter that if they don’t correct their customers abuse they will have to ignore or delete all incoming message from their ISP and notify other ISP of their ISP customers abuse.
Step 5: If the letter for your ISP doesn’t stop the spammer or the ISP from Spamming and abusing UseNet. Notify your ISP with the forward messages of the new and continued abuse stating that they are still doing it. And your ISP might filter out all data from that ISP if they can, and notify others.
Step 6: The final step is a little painful but you need to convince your ISP to do this. Ask your ISP to send an e-mail to their UseNet feeds with the included UseNet abuse. News feeds like NewsGuy and SuperNews will listen much faster to an ISP administrator and can more effectively to blocking transitions from that ISP. Placing what is referred to as the UseNet death penalty on that ISP.
To read up on UseNet administrators and supporters go to
http://www.sputum.com/suitsite/uunetudp.html
http://www.supernews.com
http://www.newsguy.com
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Q: What is a MUSH/MUD/MOO? |
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A: MUSH stands for Multi-User Shared Habitat or Hallucination. MUD stands for multi-user dungeon, dimension, or sometimes domain. And is often a paper game played out on a message board or some sort of Chat channel. The last one MOO stands for Multi-user-dimension Object Oriented. That is based in a program created by Stephen White, that runs like a MUD. These are all text based games that are played across the Internet.
http://rift.riftwar.com
http://www.ptbo.igs.net/`amanley/rift/index.html |
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Q: What is this IRC thing? |
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A: An IRC is an Internet Relay Chat. There is a channel dedicated to Feist by connecting to the #Midkemia channel on DalNet. For more information look at the #Midkemia’s IRC FAQ at:
Psihawk.com/feist/feist-irc.html
If you have any problems connecting, send an e-mail to Joe Dimech, the founder of the #Midkemia channel at Macros@ntplx.net |
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